YouTube Successfully Intimidates a DMN Guest Contributor…

It’s called ‘the chilling effect’…

Despite serious threats, YouTube has been unsuccessful at removing an earlier article on Digital Music News about confusing royalty payouts and specifics.  But what they have been successful at is preventing the next one: a 4,000+ word, highly-detailed essay on YouTube best practices and royalties, from a company highly-specialized in YouTube distribution.

The company simply got spooked, and asked that we not print the piece for fear of having their MCN status revoked by YouTube.  So here’s what artists, labels, publishers, startups, and the industry is missing as a result.  This was Part I…

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20 Responses

  1. Visitor
    Visitor

    Paul, why the hell don’t you ask a YouTube rep to write a guest post clarifying all of this shit? We’re getting conflicting (and straight up wrong) information from just about everyone on this forum.
    Wouldn’t be in everyone’s best interest (including YouTube) for them to come on here and lay out the facts so we don’t have to deal with this bullshit from Jeff Price and Emmanuel Zunz anymore?

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    • Paul Resnikoff
      Paul Resnikoff

      “Paul, why the hell don’t you ask a YouTube rep to write a guest post clarifying all of this shit? We’re getting conflicting (and straight up wrong) information from just about everyone on this forum.”
      Good idea. First they need to respond to an email of mine (walk, run).
      “Wouldn’t be in everyone’s best interest (including YouTube) for them to come on here and lay out the facts so we don’t have to deal with this bullshit from Jeff Price and Emmanuel Zunz anymore?”
      Not so sure about that. Transparancy is often the enemy of a business model.

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      • Zac Shaw
        Zac Shaw

        Yup, transparency to the music industry is like twerking to the Parents Television Council.
        Does anyone else see the writing on the wall — that music is free?
        We started with labels taking everything. Artists fought for each percentage point. Now that labels are no longer sustainable, we’ve got 200 digital products and services for musicians each trying to take their 5, 10, 20 percent off a revenue stream.
        The problem is most musicians lack the culture and knowledge of entrepreneurship to make these tools work for them. And so the products & services exploit all the wannabe musicians while empowering the few that can sieze upon the democratized music industry and make it work for them.
        I’m not naive enough to think a better way is possible, but we need to educate musicians on how the industry works. This is even more important when these companies respond to requests for transparency like a Molotov cocktail has been thrown in their direction!

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  2. AdamOnDemand
    AdamOnDemand

    Ok… but if the information is useful, which you claim it is, at least share it and source it INTIMIDATED INTO ANONYMITY BY YOUTUBE or something of the sort.

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  3. Visitor
    Visitor

    A relative of mine used to work for YouTube until recently. High up in the ranks. He had TS clearance while working there. Sometimes I ask him stuff just to see his reaction. And you know what? His face looks just like my neighboor next door, who is retired from the FBI.
    – hey (relative), would it be possible that YouTube is used by agencies for psyops?
    – (blank stare)…hey…mmm…want to order some pizza?

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  4. QSDC
    QSDC

    You really should submit this to ChillingEffects.org — the same forum that Google uses to publically humiliate musicians who dare to request that their copyrighted material be removed from YouTube.

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  5. Visitor
    Visitor

    As an owner of many ecommerce sites I would hate it if our partners and contributors started posting all the details of our business models on public forums for all to see including our direct competitors.
    That’s why it is splled out in the TOS what you can and cannot do. I don’t really understand the outrage here.

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    • GGG
      GGG

      Because if it weren’t for big bad evil corporations every single person that picked up an instrument or sang a song would be a millionaire genius artist. It’s science.

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  6. juan adams
    juan adams

    People just need to understand that Google has certain business practices that cannot be violated. For instance, at my job, if say a married higher-up was dating subordinate, that would most certainly result in a strong reprimand if not immediate termination. That person would never be allowed to compromise the the good name of our product much less risk exposing us to lawsuits, should that affair turn out badly (when married guys cheat it rarely turns out good…)
    So people need to wake up and follow Google’s sterling example of business ethics – although I must fess up that I do feel a tad naughty for “pirating” a copy of the questionable article and all its comments using Google’s free screen capture app which I got from the Chrome Web Store…

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    • Visitor
      Visitor

      Agreed, Juan.
      No one is forcing anyone to do business with Google. Also, no pun intended but googling for some information turns up other sites with info about rev splits.
      As mentioned in the post above, go to Jason Calcanis’ blog titled “I ain’t gonna work on YouTube’s farm no more” He goes into how YT works quite a bit.
      Or, the YTTalk Forums at:
      yttalk.com/threads/question-about-revenue-split.27317/ (sorry, won’t let me copy in links).
      Scroll down on the thread and you will see discussions on YT splits and even the splits of various MCNs.
      Just in case, everyone thought DMN was the the first site out there with this sort of news, NOT.

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      • Visitor
        Visitor

        “No one is forcing anyone to do business with Google.”
        Ah-hahahaha! You may not want to do business with Google, but Google will do business with you whether you want to or not.

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