If you have more than 25,000 songs in your collection, then you're probably frequenting platforms like the Pirate Bay or RapidShare, or Limewire back in the day. That's not to say there aren't prolific CD-rippers or blog-surfers - there are - but most people with gigantic collections have paid little for the privilege.
Now, there's a fairly useless roadblock for these people. As the paint dries on the just-launched iTunes Match, an unexpected limitation has emerged. That is, users cannot upload more than 25,000 tracks, at least as the service currently stands. Those 25,000 refer to songs obtained outside of the iTunes Store, as iTunes-purchased tracks don't count against the limit. "Limit 25,000 songs," Apple flatly states in its Terms of Service, while also blocking heavy upload attempts with a similar message. "iTunes purchases do not count against limit."
And, this is a flat, dumb limit: users cannot pick-and-choose tracks they want to upload, they either chop the collection, or go home. Which probably means trying a workaround, going over to Amazon's Cloud Drive, or just taking your ball and going home to your multi-terrabyte drive(s).
In other words, this is hardly a deterrent, especially for people that don't like to pay anyway. But there's a dangerous question surrounding those who will: does a simple, $24.99 payment exonerate thousands of illegal downloads? Often accumulated over years, but suddenly 'legitimized' by a paid, scan-n-match relationship with Apple?
The answer, in short, is yes. For more than a decade, Apple has been telling fans to stuff their iPods, 'Rip, Mix, Burn,' and organize their thousands of songs in an elegant iTunes application. And Steve Jobs was no dummy: Apple has managed to become a huge complement to piracy, and a major part of that acquisition ecosystem - all without skirting the law.
This is more of the same. In fact, iTunes Match seems to seal the deal, with or without a symbolic, 25,000-song limit attached. Now, the question is how many will actually pay.
kirkmc Tuesday, November 15, 2011
I think you're mistaken. I have currently 78K tracks in my iTunes library, more than half classical music. I have thousands of CDs, and review classical CDs, and get a lot of music from various labels. I know a lot of classical music listeners with very large libraries, many larger than mine.
alden Tuesday, November 15, 2011
It's not the iTunes library he's referring to its iTunes Match cloud. Please tell me this wasn't another lame label rule like those affecting the iPod, etc.?
Really? Tuesday, November 15, 2011
I find it hard to believe you have that many legitimate albums and songs. Thousands of CDs? An average CD costs what? 10 bucks? You're saying you have spent tens of thousands of dollars on music? I highly doubt it. Some way or another, I'm sure a lot of your collection is pirated.
I barely have 1000 songs and almost all of mine is pirated.
kirkmc Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Yes, I've spent a lot on music, and for the past 25 years have been buying CDs. But as I said, I also review classical CDs, and get a fair number of them for free.
ralph Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Seriously that is nothing. And spending tens of thousands on music? I have definitely spent that. A lot of people do that.
Or rather, used to do that.
OK, You have 1000 tunes, mostly pirated, and you're shocked that people spend fortunes on music. On evidence presented, that makes you around 18-20? Maybe even younger. You'll get there, if it means anything to you.
ralph2 Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Oh, if there's anything left to buy, that is.
jbedbus Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I own over 2600 CDs (every single one of them bought, no former record store employee here), ~1000 legal (eMusic.com) download albums, and hundreds of my own (original) home-recorded tracks. Current track count is over 40k, every single one of them legitimately acquired.
I also own thousands of cassettes and hundreds of LPs, which in today's "licensing" environment should entitle me to download digital versions without repercussion, but I don't go there.
I've been collecting music for almost 30 years. I've spent over $1200 this year alone on recorded music.
Next time, try to honestly consider your own lack of understanding and experience before accusing people of things based on nothing but your own lacking.
Buck Tuesday, November 15, 2011
I'm 31 years old and have been hoarding music for the better part of twenty years now. My wife's CD collection is even bigger than mine.
While, admittedly, some of my collection has been "burned" from friends, the majority of it comes from music we have purchased/collected (and a lot of it even digitally transferred) ourselves. While I have bought loads of music online (especially from emusic), we haven't bought much on itunes. Mostly just a song here and a song there, whenever we are given a gift card.
I have to say that I find these limitation disturbing. My collection well exceeds 25k songs and most of it isn't even available on itunes (or spotify either, for that matter.) While 25k songs sound like a lot- at an average of 12 tunes on an album- it only equates to about 2,100 albums... Split between two people, this is 1,050 albums... Over the course of 20 years this equates to a little more than 50 albums a year... Sadly I can say that we have easily purchased this much music (a lot of it used or on impulse at a show, but whatever)
I was looking forward to release of iMatch so that our lives would be simplified and we could listen to anything from our collection at almost any given moment, but I have to say that I'm disappointed. Would gladly pay more than $25 a year for a service like this that could accommadate us.
Econ Tuesday, November 15, 2011
Even 100 albums a year at ten bucks a pop is (only) $1,000 a year. Most people I know easily spend more than that on cable TV (not counting internet service) or their cell phone service.
And classical music is often well beyond 12 tracks per album the way movements are often indexed, so a classical collector could exceed 25K tracks with a ten-year collection easily.
Buck Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I hear ya on that. A lot of my collection is made up of 'anthologies' that contain well over 20 tracks per album. And I probably spend around $1,000 in music each year (though my 'collecting' habits usually involve scouring used record bins and antique stores for out of print LPs, cassettes and CDs.)
I really thought that the iCloud would be the solution to by cataloging nightmare. Guess not
Keeganskylar Tuesday, November 15, 2011
So many Reviewrz! Wednesday, November 16, 2011
To all the liars who suddently claim that they have more than 25,000 songs in their *legal* music library, because they have a lot of review albums in their hands:
If a label sent you a cd to review, you need an additional license to do what your lame excuse implies.
Buck Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Actually... in the recent UMG vs Augusto case, the court ruled that promo CDs fall under the first sale doctrine. Not that it helps much in this instance
mdti Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I know people who have a vinyl collection well above 5000 vinyls... so why not the same for cds ?
KG Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I'm sitting here looking at two bookcases full of CDs that were all legally purchased over the years, probably 2000 in all. I got some of them back when you could buy one from BMG and get 12 free, then quit and do it again. I got many of them used. And I paid full price for many many of them. But all legally owned. They are all ripped and in my iTunes library, which is at around 23,000 right now, so I'm not quite hitting the 25K limit. But the way I buy music, it probably will be less than a year before I do. Maybe the limit will be higher by then. Who knows?
Versus Friday, November 18, 2011
Where and when did Apple ever claim that this an amnesty for piracy?
You claim that iTunes Match exonerates pirates. Unless Apple states that, then such a claim is unjustified.