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The More Pandora Grows, the More It Loses Money...

Wednesday, March 07, 2012
by  paul

Pandora's booming, but so are its costs. Here's what the company revealed for its most-recent, fiscal fourth quarter, which shows that heavy growth comes at a heavy price.  That includes per-play payments to SoundExchange, among other variable costs.   

 

 





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    Anthony Wednesday, March 07, 2012

    What are the "other variable costs"?


    paul Wednesday, March 07, 2012

    Publishing costs, server capacity... 


    Glacial Concepts Wednesday, March 07, 2012

    This is what will always happen when the primary cost is based on streams or listening hours becuase the total listening will go up with each added user. The ratio of income to liabilities will never change, and there is never the benefit to costs that comes from scale.

    The reverse of this is why streaming services will not pay out more than the hundreths of a penny that a stream is currently worth when they get more users. Each new user brings the same amount of cost with them, and again there is no benefit from the larger scale.


    blastjacket Thursday, March 08, 2012

    At some point I'm hoping all these smart investors will let us know why they keep putting money into this.

    Visitor2 Thursday, March 08, 2012

    I dont think Pandora is a good short term investment but I do think there is a long term opportunity here, who knows if Pandora will be around when its time truly comes.  Commerical radio monetization is substantial and the more Pandora (or like services) integrates the better chance they have at grabbing the incredibly high CPM radio ad spots.  

    The problem with a service like pandora (and where IHeartRadio may beat them) is their lack of localization.  A huge amount of radio advertisers are locally based which is the opportunity at radio.  It's the last medium really geared towards influencing individual markets (I suppose you can include local newspapers as well) which is why they're able to sell at such high cpms.

    Pandora needs to focus locally and they'll have an opportunity.  If they can sell small businesses on their ability to influence locally, they'll succeed.  If not, it will be increasingly difficult to crack the CPM needed to be profitable.


    @Bpoz Thursday, March 08, 2012

    I love Pandora, but if even they can't get to profitability...


    @Tampa_Rick Friday, March 09, 2012

    Hard to believe.


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