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"The Consumer Didn't Want Jimi Hendrix. And He Didn't Want Sgt. Pepper's..."

Tuesday, April 17, 2012
by  paul

The premise of modern-day music marketing is that the consumer actually knows what he or she wants, and oftentimes has already voted. And that goes for signing, investing, and branding artists as well.  But what if the pendulum has swung too far on that thought, and killed the art of shaping trends and taking risks?         

 

Gallagher made the comments ahead of his Coachella set this past weekend.  "What's changed is the way that people get music and pay for (or don't pay for) music.  That's changed profoundly, and the people that sign bands are aware of that, and so the rules of the game have changed."  

 

"Let's put it this way: if a fashion house is a record label - like, Dior - do you think fashion would stay the same if they asked the consumer what they wanted to wear next summer?  Why does fashion always move forward and we all look different with different haircuts and we're all different?   

 





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    QSDC Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    Right on, Noel.

    Also, quit shaving/waxing that unibrow. Be proud of what God gave you, mate.


    Visitor Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    LOL!


    Evan Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    Right on brother!

     


    @madktc Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    Noel is also made some insanely dumb comment about spending 250,000 British pounds ($400k USD) on his entire album and demanding to recoup off of that in that same interview.  

    Spending that kind of money on production is an antiquated way of doing business and clarifies that Noel's comments should be taken with a grain of salt.   


    gaetano Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    Here here. 


    @bdandthelookers Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    An excellent point.


    James Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Absolutely true


    J. Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Absoute genius here and an extremely spot on comparison with respect to the fashion industry. We definitely need to get back to specialization in the music industry concerning knowledge of consumers and music itself. I personally think it's  absence is the root of piracy.


    Big Swifty and Associates Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    I don't have the actual figures in front of me, but I am willing to bet that more marketing invented music product is being pirated than anything else.  Also, do you think fashion design houses that push fashion forward are making as much money as Gap Inc?


    Drewsef Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    True, but then, I'll bet even the more niche fashion houses are making substantially more than the Merges and Jagjaguwars of the world.


    Visitor Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    I think his point is that profitability estimates should not be the only factor in evaluating music. There's another criterion: artistry.


    Hecube Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    The prevalent discourse has become totally biased. Even Gallagher talks about "consumers" without skipping a beat. I hate that word. Consumers might get what they want but the human beings underneath won't necessarily be happy about it.


    Versus Thursday, April 19, 2012

    Excellent point. Somewhere along the line we went from being people (or citizens) to being customers to being mere consumers. Corporate types always use the term, but now it's common among politicians, journalists, ...and apparently, even musicians. Very sad.

     

    - Versus


    also Thursday, April 19, 2012

    "Content Providers" is another dehumanizing term used by politicians and corporate types to describe people who actually create the music, art, sound recordings, photos etc.  Don't trust anyone that uses this term.


    zog Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Record company's used to be run by people who didn't follow

    consumers taste or trends.They looked for things that were

    great,different ,thinking out of the box.

    Apple under Job's with it's product run of the last few years as

    been using this as there model.


    Consumers don't know what they want ,they want to be told

    what they want.


    Big Swifty and Associates Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Music to my ears


    matthew king kaufman Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    right on! mustc is art not focused thinking. 


    @ADSR Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    De ez a legjobb !!!


    @David_Matthew_ Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    The modern music business has degenerated into risk averse "committees and focus groups". Good points made by Noel.


    Kelland Drumgoole Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    He made some very valid points. Steve Jobs said made a statement similar to this as well... ". A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."


    Just Another Voice Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Noel misses on this one.  First of all - to compare the music and the music business of the late 60s to today is ludicrous.  The overall economics of music has changed in incomprehensible ways.

    You're talking about an era that produced <1500 albums a year to the consumer to an era of >100,000 albums a year.

    You're comparing an era in which the major festivals paled in size to today's gargantuan multiday events. 

    You're comparing an era where AM radio ruled, and most people still had black & white television - and many many rural people still had party line phones.

    What was being done musically then can not be replicated today -- that era produced music that had NEVER been heard before, and recordings that baffled and intriqued the minds of erstwhile neophyte engineers.

    Today, consumers did not demand the Avett Brothers, Mumford & Sons, or any of a number of other acts that have risen in popularity in the past few years.  Bands like the Lumineers came out a very small room in Denver.  The Fray?  Totally organic.  I was there.  I saw it.  OneRepublic?  Hello RYAN TEDDER - folks are crafting modern pop in their own living rooms and studios.

    Now, the promotion and placement of any product damned well better be based on what the expected core audience is.  If I'm producing a jamband record I'm not going to promote it to CHR radio.  By the same token I'm not going to promote Justin B to hippies in Colorado.

    Understanding your market niche is critically important.  It is within those market niches that new music and acts are discovered.


    Econ Thursday, April 19, 2012

    Noel Gallagher is one of the world's most popular idiots.


    Jimi Hendrix was going to be a star because every musician that worked with him for years was blown away by him.  The Jimi Hendrix Experience was a laebl-created group - he needed a band to back him up and he didn't pick those guys himself.

    Sgt. Pepper's was merely a progression of Revolver.  And Revolver WAS a focus-grouped LP - the songs from that session were released to British radio in dribs and drabs to gauge interest before the LP was finally compiled and released.  Hell, Frank Zappa called the Sgt. Peppers LP a cash-in at the time.


    The Shaggs Friday, April 20, 2012

    Awreety


    wallow-T Monday, April 30, 2012

    That era also predated:

    a)  The major labels being subsumed into larger publically-owned companies with stockholders demanding quarterly results, and


    b)  The rise of Soundscan made it impossible to hide artistically-worthy but poor-selling albums from those same stockholders.

     


    @kelsobot Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Gallagher is right. Consumers don't actually want Top 40 and Top 40 is indeed focus grouped.


    Just Another Voice Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    if consumers did not want what is being aired on "TOP 40" based CHR, AC, Active Rock, AAA, Alternative Rock, or Modern Country radio, they would not buy it. 

    Look at the iTunes charts - http://digitalmusicnews.com/charts/itunes100

    TOP 40 based radio formats are focus group focused.  Just as television is.  Just as any marketing is.  KNOW THY MARKET. 

    If I'm programming a CHR station I am not going to air Widespread Panic or Gov't Mule.  If I'm programming a AAA format I am not going to air Lady Gaga or Justin B. 


    @utsaargawal Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Interesting comments...


    @kylemilardo Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Fuckin' right on, Noel


    yeeha Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Make great music that you love and maybe others wil too.
    Duh.. its not rocket science. 


    @theraswood Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    A million times 'yes'.


    @TheNozz Thursday, April 19, 2012

    great thoughts.


    @RichNardo Thursday, April 19, 2012

    Rant? Yes, but spot on.


    @CSkoyles Thursday, April 19, 2012

    Noel Gallagher's rage against the music biz


    @TrippyWicked Thursday, April 19, 2012

    Blimey. A Gallagher says something worth listening to.


    @IvanSpell Friday, April 20, 2012

    +100 to Noel Gallagher!


    @AprilKryMusic Friday, April 20, 2012

    All musicians should read this.


    Funn Networks Tuesday, April 24, 2012

    Spot on!!!!!! Things have evolved over the 12 years..... Good article!


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