It's simply cruel to the orcas, according to Tommy Lee, who recently penned this letter to the CEO of SeaWorld San Diego.
(letter posted on the PETA website, which is staging a broader campaign against animal cruelty at SeaWorld.)
MandalaSongs Monday, August 13, 2012
Regardless of how someone feels about zoos and aquariums, I cannot believe Tommy Lee could be so clueless as to how sound travels. Besides the fact that he is a musician who has spent tons of time in a studio and should have a vague grasp of acoustics, anyone who has ever played in a swimming pool knows that when you are under water, you can barely hear anything that is going on above water. It would be different if SeaWorld was pumping the music into the water, but they are not.
Also, I have a feeling that of all the songs they choose to play in the show, Motley Crue's tunes are not among them. ;)
But glad the dude is so passionate about something other than hating fans who want to get a photo with him.
Apathetic Matt Tuesday, August 14, 2012
"anyone who has ever played in a swimming pool knows that when you are under water, you can barely hear anything that is going on above water."
Are you then suggesting that humans hearing is the same as an orca whales hearing?
He doesn't mention anything about sound travelling through water, he's saying that he's been told that research shows that sound above 70dB is distressing to whales.
MandalaSongs Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Yes, different species perceive sound differently and are sensitive to different frequencies and decibel levels. We are on the same page there.
But that sound must first get into the water where the whales live.
My point was that when sound encounters a surface, some frequencies are reflected and some are absorbed. An example would be that music played at 90 dB in a room, will not be measured at 90 dB in the neighboring room because a good portion of that sound will not penetrate the wall. The surface of the water acts in the same way. A 90 dB reading of sound traveling through the air (in this case on speakers high up in a stadium) will be very different from the measurement of the sound from those same speakers once they have penetrated the water's surface (the same way it would be if you were measuring though a wall from a different room.)
So PETA may or may not be correct in saying 70 dB is too much, this I do not know, but what I am saying is that a reading of 70 dB underwater (where the whales are located) and measuring 70 dB in the air above the water are two very different measurements. Apples and Oranges. If the sound in the water during the show was 90 dB, it would have to be so loud in the stands, that everyone in the audience would have bleeding ears.
overunder Tuesday, August 14, 2012
The whales may "live" underwater but they're breaching the surface regularly at sea world. Because that's where the audience lives.
@mattadownes Monday, August 13, 2012
Another example of The Crue's PR firm throwing their weight around.
ASPCA > PETA.
@kbreuner Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Quote of the day: Although we like to torture the human fans that willingly come to our shows…
IgJig76 Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Sea World Responds:
"PETA [People For The Ethical Treatment Of Animals] is wrong concerning the effect of music on SeaWorld's killer whales,” said SeaWorld VP of Communications Fred Jacobs. “We have never played a Motley Crue song in any Shamu show, nor will we. I can assure you the volume of music played during parts of our killer-whale shows poses no risk at all to our animals.”
Tommy Responds Back:
"Thanks for the expected lame corporate response which avoids the issue at hand,” wrote Lee. “PETA's SeaWorld campaign and my letter are based on science from the UN wildlife panel and an NRDC study on how loud noises are tortuous to marine mammals, especially captive ones. SeaWorld won't address the issue of noise torture because you can't defend it. I'm glad to know 'Shamu Rocks' doesn't feature any Motley Crue music; PETA members are now monitoring the sad shows to see which bands are featured so that those bands can learn about this issue too.