Every once in a while, an artist opens their books for the world to see. Like Uniform Motion, a group that just published a comprehensive breakdown of their album earnings (not revenues) across multiple formats. In most cases, the best way to compensate an artist is to buy direct, though Uniform Motion tossed a wildcard with a name-your-price download on their site. The following measures one full album play on Spotify, one LP purchase, etc. (euros translated to US dollars)...

There are some details and nuances worth delving into. The fan that is likely to purchase a CD is also likely to listen to that album repeatedly on Spotify or Deezer, thereby multiplying the payoff. A more casual fan, however, generally listens and purchases less and means little financially (across any of these areas).
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Updated, 9/19: Spotify responds to the discussion and allegations of paltry payouts.
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And, Uniform also noted that Spotify offers far less transparency than iTunes or Amazon on its payouts. There are also some volume and sunk-cost considerations around vinyl worth reading.
Here's the complete breakdown, as blogged by the artist (and reprinted here with permission).
With Spotify, we’ll get 0.003 EUR/play.
If you listen to the album all the way through, we’ll get 0.029 EUR.
If you listen to the album 10 times on Spotify, we'll get 0.29 EUR
If you listen to it a hundred times, we’ll get 2.94 EUR
If you listen to the album 1,000 times (once a day for 3 years!) we’ll get 29.47 EUR!
If you use the free version of Spotify, it won’t cost you anything. Spotify will make money from ads. If you use any of the paid versions, we have no idea how they carve up the money. They only disclose this information to the Major record labels…
Deezer seems to pay a little more.
We’ve been getting 0.006 EUR/play from them. That’s 0.052 EUR/album play. If you listen to the album 10 times on Deezer, we’ll get 0.52 EUR. If you listen to it a hundred times, we’ll get 5.2 EUR. If you listen to the album 1,000 times (once a day for 3 years!) we’ll get a whopping 52 EUR!
If you use the free version of Deezer, it won’t cost you anything and Deezer will make money from the ads. If you use any of the paid versions, we have no idea how they carve up the money either.
eMusic is a subscription service. The cost of the album will depend on the plan you have. We get roughly $0.29/song or $2.60/album (9 songs).
You’ll pay 7.11 EUR to download the MP3’s. We will get 4.97 EUR of that. That’s a 70-30 split.
The album will cost you 8.91 EUR to buy from Apple.
There’s a 70-30% split there too, so we will keep 6.28 EUR/album.
That being said, it costs us 35 EUR/year to keep an album on iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon (105 EUR per year for all 3 of our albums!) so we don’t make any money until 24 people have bought a digital copy of the album on iTunes, or 150 single songs, or if we get tens of thousands of listens on Spotify! In most cases, it’s actually more economically viable not to sell the music at all.
But what about if you buy the Digital version directly from us?
We allow people to pay what they want for the digital version. If you choose to pay 5 EUR, Paypal takes 0.37 EUR, Bandcamp takes 0.75 EUR. Uniform Motion keeps 3.88 EUR. it doesn’t cost us anything to have a page on Bandcamp.
If you decide to pay nothing, well, we get nothing, but at least you didn’t give money indirectly to major record labels, which seems to be the case with Spotify!!
[editor note: we used actual figures from the group, instead of the 5 euro proxy.]
If you buy a CD, directly from us for 10 EUR, Paypal takes 0.515 EUR, Bandcamp takes 1.5 EUR. So there’s slightly less than 8 EUR left for us. But hold on a second, it costs a fair bit to make the CD.
The CD itself costs 1.2 EUR, the booklet costs about 50 cents, the CD packaging is 1.8 EUR and the sticker on the front costs 35 cents.
That's a total of 3.65 EUR
So in reality, there's 4.34 EUR left for us.
If you buy a 12" Vinyl from us at 15 EUR, Bandcamp takes 2.25 EUR, Paypal takes 0.646 EUR so there’s 12.10 left. The cost of the Vinyl itself is 3.06 EUR
The labels cost 1.3 EUR. For a total of 4.36 EUR
So there’s 7.75 EUR left for us.
However, we had to press 250 of these (because that’s the minimum order), so it’s very unlikely we’ll make any money on them.
We need to sell 72 copies before we break even on the vinyl edition. We’ve sold about 30 so far.
If we break even, we’ll lower the price a little bit. :)

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El Aguila Tuesday, September 13, 2011
I hope their local mechanicals society doesn't see this!

Andy Tuesday, September 13, 2011
@El Aguila, what do you mean by that?

El Aguila Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Sorry, missed this. they don't include mechanical payments in their costs, is all.

Dave Tuesday, September 20, 2011
You sound like you're actually referring to Performance Royalties. There's no such thing as a "Mechanicals Society" but performance royalties are handled (in the United States at least) by BMI, ASCAP and SESAC.
Having said that, I seriously doubt these guys have enough radio play to get any performance royalties at all.

@paddlebro Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Eric Jensen
Interesting breakdown.

@GeorgeDearing Tuesday, September 13, 2011
George Dearing
... if you listen to their album 100X on Spotify they'll make 2.94 EUR

HermanV Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Or... when 100 people listen to your album once, you make the same amount. But quite possibly none of them would have gone out and bought the CD.
I do wonder just how much people think that one person listening once to one track really worth?!? It's the aggregate that matters. And that aggregate includes revenue from people that would not have bought the CD.
Comparing a single Spotify play to one person purchasing a CD, (or even a download) is comparing the price of a watermelon to the price of a single grape.
Furthermore... the 0.2 eurocent per play is for the free tier only. The premium tiers pay a multiple of that.

Jennifer Sullivan Wednesday, September 14, 2011
No--1,000 times for one album and they will make that much. Not 100.

HermanV Wednesday, September 14, 2011
I was comparing 100 people listening to the album once to one person listening 100 times.
The person that listens to it 100 times might have bought it if he didn't have Spotify (but he would more likely have gotten it off the net for free).
Those 100 people listening once would definitely not have bought the CD. Or maybe some of them did, but that would only change the maths favourably...

@Jerome_Rastoldo Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Jérôme Rastoldo
Wonder how the increase in the nber of subscribers might change it...

nihan Wednesday, December 28, 2011
Thanks for sharing these reference videos. Have to make time to watch all of it but these should be a useful bunch coming from you.

@patrisrocha Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Patris Rocha
os valores que os músicos recebem por seu trabalho (por álbum)

@jonathangrimes Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Jonathan Grimes
interesting breakdown of costs across formats/services...

@madktc Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Matt Downes
From Vinyl (win!) to Spotify (Lose!)

steveh Tuesday, September 13, 2011
"if you listen to their album 100X on Spotify they'll make 2.94 EUR"
Come on Spotify Kool Aid drinkers how can you possibly justify this?
This is the truth dammit!
And how many albums do you listen to 100 times?
Future of the Music Industry?? Gimme a break!

OzRich Tuesday, September 13, 2011
You can't compare a play on Spotify/Deezer with a permanent sale - that's apples and oranges territory. You have to compare per-listener pay outs on radio with per-listener pay outs on a streaming service.

Clyde Smith Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Maybe I'm missing it but this should really have a link to the blog source.

paul Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Joe Wednesday, September 14, 2011
If I understand it right, the band don't have a label, they manufacture, market + sell their music all by themselves. How many bands do this? Normally the label gets their share too which makes a big difference for the artist. Nevertheless an interesting break down.

Cameron Mizell Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Many, many, many artists do this. Many labels now are only interested in artists that have already built a following, but if artists have built a substantial following, they might not need the label. Depending on the deal, doing it yourself could be more profitable than giving a cut to the label in exchange for possibly creating more revenue.

mack the knife Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Like they said, 'it pays not to release music'. I know one or two established artists who are not releasing music for this reason

Neil Cocker Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Useful breakdown, thanks.
Revenues from actual music sales are plummeting these days, so it pays to take Andrew Dubber's philosophy to heart:
"Make money because of your music, not from your music".
In other words, you're not going to get rich from MP3 sales, but you might make some good cash from touring or selling your merch through an online music merchandising site like Dizzyjam.com.

Food For Thought... Wednesday, September 14, 2011
...says the guy who owns said merchandising website.
@Neil - care to share what you define as "good cash"? Care to tell the readers how many of the artists you're working with who give their music away as a promotional tool in order to tour and sell merch are making more than, say, $5000 per year (NET)?

Come on Wednesday, September 14, 2011
" it costs us 35 EUR/year to keep an album on iTunes, Spotify, and Amazon"
That's because you're a dumb shit by using Tunecore.
Shop around. You don't have to pay that yearly fee to Jeff Price to keep your album on those services. There are many services that take a very small cut of the back end and will keep it on there forever.

laszlo szell Wednesday, September 14, 2011
are barcodes in america for free? then if you consider digital shelving costs like tunecore, you should also consider barcode (GLN, EAN) costs that sum up to even more over here in europe: 150 eu that is 204 usd as per today for a yearly license fee.
considering this, that would even more sadden the picture.

@youareincontrol Wednesday, September 14, 2011
You Are In Control
Never thought math could be this captivating.

@radarmusicvideo Wednesday, September 14, 2011
RadarMusicVideos
Another 'how much money does an artist make?' article, but this one's very good.

@jaybirdcom Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Laurie Jakobsen
Always fascinating.

@empire_of_dust Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Daniel Werneck, PhD
"In most cases, it’s actually more economically viable not to sell the music at all."

HansH Wednesday, September 14, 2011
For one, you cannot really compare streams with sales. A sale is a one time thing, streams go on and on and on.
What matters in the end how much you get on an annual basis. In the end streams may well win. Lower threshold, more streamers than buyers etc.
Current Spotify payout is 0.004 cent BTW.

HermanV Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Spotify payout varies by type of service, and averages around 0.4 cent or 0.004 euro. That 0.004 cent is grossly incorrect.

HansH Wednesday, September 14, 2011
@HermanV Sorry I typed Cent where it should have been Euro
I have statements here to prove the € 0.004 pay out per stream.
It's the same amount for all streams in June.

Maxwellian Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Wow, seems like the Spotify PR team or fake Spotify 'commenters' are in every single Digital Music News article.
I'll believe this artist, thank you.
::MW

HansH Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Fake Spotify commenter? What a joke. I have a label and have released an album by the band Little Things That Kill on Spotify and other digital services.

HermanV Thursday, September 15, 2011
Me also not a "fake commenter", but simply also a label owner who is very satisfied with the income we receive from Spotify. Spotify is our second best revenue earner (after iTunes) and we are very pleased to have all 1500 tracks in our catalog available on Spotify.

HansH Thursday, September 15, 2011
@HermanV Nice! Are you willing to share some more data maybe? I would like that add this to my quarterly articles on pay outs by Spotify and other streaming services.

@romeumartins Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Leiam esse post sobre quanto ganha uma banda em cada plataforma

@iamEDROCK Wednesday, September 14, 2011
[Rock with] EdrOck
Ce qu'un Artiste gagne vraiment.

Game of Thrones Wednesday, September 14, 2011
If you want to tell the full story, you need to do focus on the fact that streaming services for the most part are about conversion to paid users.
The per stream rates people rave on about exist so artists derive some value from the free trials users receive before they either start to pay for the service- or face getting gradually 'retired' through play caps/listening restrictions etc.
If the 'standard' music fan of the future becomes one paying $10 or even $5 a month for a Spotify like service- artists, labels and the music industry in general is going to be a very lucrative space once again.

steveh Friday, September 16, 2011
You say "if", "if" and "if".
But in fact the 5$ / 10$ per month of which you speak not gaining the mega-traction needed.
Spot is a flop.

@rafaelsolis Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Rafael Solis
I'm sure it varies for larger artist but provides directional info.

@jamesaviaz Wednesday, September 14, 2011
James Aviaz
Fascinating breakdown.

@shoottheplayer Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Shoot The Player
Very interesting, indeed.

Kathryn Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Whew! this is a doozie. Wonder how much street musicians make?

MDTI Wednesday, September 14, 2011
It should be fun to compare with 1 day/hour of playing in the metro/subway....

byanymeansmusic Wednesday, September 14, 2011
I'm an elder statesman in the rap music business. I've seen so many music websites start off as the guy that's going to help the indie artist. Only to later once they got a little popular abandon that notion in exchange for major label dollars.
Also everybody wants a huge percent of the profits and ain't made a beat, wrote a rhyme or anything. So with that said I suggest artist stop joining these websites and sell their music directly from their website. Because honestly ask yourself are these sites going to promote the music and get thousands of fans for you? I doubt it. So you in turn have to promote the location where your music is at and then give them huge percentages of the profit. Why not just promote your site and to hell with all these other crooks.
I'm Imp and I have a indie release entitled "Suicide Note" coming out on October 27th 2011. I'm going to sell it exclusively from my website www.ByAnyMeansMusic.com
Download the single "My Confession" it's free! and pre-order the album so that I can shoot a music video. Imp

MDTI Thursday, September 15, 2011
+1
direct sale is an answer....
It puts a financial burden on you for promotion, but it is likely that it is worth it.

@xolondon Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Stephen Sears
Depressing stat on how much artists today make selling their music. Takeaway: Spotify is not paying off for them.

Abc123 Thursday, September 15, 2011
I completely agree that Spotify isn't paying out impressive amounts of money per stream, however you can't evaluate the effectiveness of Spotify from simply a (pay-per-stream) view point. Spotify may not pay a ton of money, but what if 1000 additonal people discovered an artists album that wouldn't have otherwise. And what if 100 of them went to see them live in concert.... That's where Spotify really pays the musician.. (quite indirectly of course)

steveh Friday, September 16, 2011
What you are describing is unproven conjecture. There is no proof whatsoever that people buy more albums or go to more concerts after listening on Spotify.
What kool aid are you drinking?

Visitor Wednesday, September 14, 2011
A person is very unlikely to listen to your music 100 times... that's reality.
/yv

Visitor Tuesday, November 08, 2011
Since it is very well known that every now and then an artist produces their books to the public, one of the most practical ways to compensate an artist during this time is direct buying. I think the same goes with the case of Uniform Motion as well. Anyway, one thing i would agree here is that when it comes to payouts and hr services, Spotify more or less delivers feebly (0.003 Euros a play) as compared to that of Apple's iTunes or Amazon which is much more of a lucrative deal for the artists.

@caseystratton Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Casey Stratton
See I wasn't exaggerating.

@Shemrock14 Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Shemrock
~~~ interesting....

REMatwork Wednesday, September 14, 2011
If you like a song enough, buy it, because you have no idea what the access costs are going to be for that song tomorrow.
Eventually, there will be some serious costs involved for the user to listen to a song. There always have been. In the old days, a juke box spin was paid for by the listener*. To avoid juke box costs is why people originally bought records.
*Unless the bar played music over the PA, in which case you paid for it in the price of your drink and just didnt know it.

VINCIAZEE*(TM)-MUSICEZEE*(TM) Wednesday, September 14, 2011
It is great to get a comprehensive breakdown of varios method's of delivery. Every Publisher should look into these figure's as well as Artist's. We were contemplating a small Ebook release with one of our future APPLICATION'S. After Month's of negotiation the Music Consultant was requiring $0.70 cent's per download Royalty on a Product we were planning to release at $3.79 cents complete APP with Ebook. So you know what happened we scrapped the Ebook idea along with the past Music Consultant. Now we go back to basic's and shall release a Baby version of MUSICEZEE*(TM) called the VINCIAZEE*(TM) for release in the future via the VINCIGENIUS or VINCI TAB:-[ http://www.vincigenius.com ]-[ http://vinciazee.yolasite.com ]. So we are no longer entering into any royalty arrangement's with any party moving forward. You can not expect Physical Royalty on Electronic instant market product, as the price must be delivered below the $5.00 mark in total, then take out between 30% to 25% for deployment cost's leaves 70% to & 75% to be divided between developer's and Publisher's, with all cost's amortized over a preset number of download's, leaving an over amount for a 15% return to the Author, which could not equate to a $0.70 cent return. Unfortunate that everyone want's too much from the digital market place. With 1,500,000,000 interactive devices in the year 2013, you do not have to be gready with royalty expectation's.

@StereoCrowd Thursday, September 15, 2011
Stereo Crowd
Folks talking $. It caught my eye.

@petersumusic Thursday, September 15, 2011
Peter Su
super helpful if you've ever wondered what an artist makes on different types of media.

Ken Myers Thursday, September 15, 2011
I agree with one observor here. You have to shop around for the most cost effective digital distributor. You don't and shouldn't have to pay a yearly fee to sell your music from these sites. Opt for one with a reasonable fee per album sold. It just don't make sense for paying someone to keep your music on their 'shelves' so to speak.
Manufacturers of CD's such as Kunaki.com do excellent work for $1 a CD ,including CD artwork, which can be provided by you, pressing of the CD complete with audio content. That's far less than paying someone $200 for 50 copies just because they claim their CD's are made to look 'professional'. Fortunately I am fairly good at art so I design my own CD's which look as good or better than the higher cost ones. Oh, and the retail barcode is free.
Also check with SoundExchange to see if you have any monies due you (those who are with performing rights societies). You'd be surprise at the many artists who have neglected to collect money from certain online streaming and radio play, which reports to Soundexchange.

@hellomusic Thursday, September 15, 2011
Hello Music
Great reading...

@Andy_Doe Monday, September 19, 2011
Andy Doe
If they wanted to do this properly, they should 1) include radio and 2) use the same numbers for the graph and the text.

@cdynckl Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Cody Nickel
This is pretty interesting...

@_mldb Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Miles B
Must-read

@drengy Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Lee Stanford
If this is true, you should only use Spotify to listen to artists you hate.

@bryynsound Tuesday, September 20, 2011
bryyn
congrats Uniform Motion, you hit big waves with honestly.

@BFDally Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Benjamin Dally
Interesting...

@natemusic Friday, September 30, 2011
nate query
If someone plays your record 150 times on Spotify, it's sort of like they bought your record.

@PetaLocsta Thursday, October 06, 2011
Quintius Walker
So you still want to rap?

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